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11-16-2008, 12:32 PM
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I was told by management that they are going to enforce the 9.5 rule all the way through peak season. Has anyone else been told this? | 
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11-16-2008, 12:33 PM
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Does 9.5 mean you can only work from 9-5 or 9.5 hours? | 
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11-16-2008, 12:35 PM
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#3 | | IYQYQR
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No, have not heard that.
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11-16-2008, 12:35 PM
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Yeah! 9 to 5 I could dig that! | |
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11-16-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungDriver84  I was told by management that they are going to enforce the 9.5 rule all the way through peak season. Has anyone else been told this? | I believe what they meant was that they were going to enforce the no one under 9.5 rule. Get ready for alot of 12 hour days.  | |
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11-16-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBrownSanta I believe what they meant was that they were going to enforce the no one under 9.5 rule. Get ready for alot of 12 hour days. |
LMAO at your signature!
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11-16-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungDriver84 I was told by management that they are going to enforce the 9.5 rule all the way through peak season. Has anyone else been told this? | We did that last year, same manager says that will be the goal this year as well.
Peak 07 was probably the easiest I’ve experienced in my 22 years.
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11-16-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by upsdude LMAO at your signature! | I didn't make it up, I swear.
Here's the link, the paragraph under How It Works: http://www.ups.com/pressroom/us/pres...8,5057,00.html | |
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11-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBrownSanta | Now I'm really LMAO and sad at the same time.
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11-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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[quote=upsdude;431211]We did that last year, same manager says that will be the goal this year as well. [quote]
Same here--I was home pretty much the same time as I am the rest of the year.
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11-16-2008, 04:19 PM
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DO your job no missed no late airs do your lunch 9 5 dont mean nothing do it right safe thats what counts. have a good holiday. | |
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11-16-2008, 05:49 PM
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#12 | | deion68
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We were told the samething this week at a PCM. Also all drivers now that have helpers, NO Questions asked must be under 9.5... | |
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11-16-2008, 06:09 PM
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I don't see that happening at my center. I had 3-10+ hour days last week and all the routes are not in yet and helpers have not started....
Last year, I consistently punched out at 1930 (start at 825).
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11-17-2008, 04:51 AM
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If they want everybody in before or at 9.5 they would have to dispatch at an 8-8.5 day. I don't see that happening. My guess is that they know it's not going to happen. But by telling everyone that they need to call if they're not going to make it puts the burden on the driver. It's the usual attempt to get the drivers to skip lunch and breaks, take potentially dangerous shortcuts and otherwise pull a rabbit out of their hat. I suppose there is a small percentage that attempt the nearly impossible. Enough anyway that it's worth their effort each year to try it. JMO
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11-17-2008, 04:54 AM
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They don't enforce the "no one over 9.5" rule any time of the year here.
Well, they od try telling us that no one is to work over 9.5, but then they give you 11 hours of work to do.
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11-17-2008, 01:31 PM
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Since when does UPS enforce anything that does not benefit them and them only?
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11-17-2008, 02:57 PM
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It's pretty hard to break the laws of physics, no matter how much the SUPS complain.
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11-17-2008, 03:16 PM
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I was told today that our helpers won't start till the first week in dec. | |
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11-17-2008, 03:25 PM
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I've heard this for the last several years...but when the last 2 peak weeks get here and the volume jumps...you will hear "don't bring anything back without an attempt"......no rollovers....So, we will have to see it to believe it.. | |
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11-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jw55wags I was told today that our helpers won't start till the first week in dec. | Helpers started in my old center over a week ago, trips are down but drivers are being used as helpers if they want. My wife said the driver that delivers to her office was training a new hire helper off the street today.
Maybe the Teamsters & Company have agreed to not use helpers until December in your area. | |
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11-17-2008, 06:10 PM
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What do you mean by the over 9.5 rule enforced? Where I work, If you think you will be over 9.5 hours by 1500 hours you must send a message to the center on what you need to lose. Nobody ever gets help so its just an exercise.
When you say "the 9.5 rule is enforced" do you mean you still need to send a message 1-10 days before Christmas that you are going over? To me this is a waste of time and money spent sending the messages.
My attitude is let us get the job done. The work you give us is more than a 9.5 dispacth even by UPS standards. So please, give me my helper and 320+ stops and I will get the job done around 10 hours. Don't nickel and dime me with the helper and make me send messages. If you want to cut my helper loose early to save $9.50, it will hurt you to the tune of $43/hour and another $10 for the time bonus (in MA we get 20 min. of OT after 10 hours).
My opinion is take your numbers and ignore them. I say this for UPS's sake. I can only use my helper for x amount of hours? This is ridiculous. Its almost free labor for UPS to keep the helper. They are not paying benifits or pension money to the helper. They are paying him $9.50/hour and if the helper team is average, UPS is getting 40-50 stops per hour or 20-25 stops/hour for $9.50. The other 11 months of the year UPS pays me $29 for 15-20 stops.
This guy or gal is making $9.50 an hour, why are you worried about his cost? After 530pm OT kicks in for me but its time to cut the slave labor loose?
If I could keep him an extra hour I could stay under 10. Oh well its not my numbers  .
Does this make sense to anyone????
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11-17-2008, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by browniehound What do you mean by the over 9.5 rule enforced? Where I work, If you think you will be over 9.5 hours by 1500 hours you must send a message to the center on what you need to lose. Nobody ever gets help so its just an exercise.
When you say "the 9.5 rule is enforced" do you mean you still need to send a message 1-10 days before Christmas that you are going over? To me this is a waste of time and money spent sending the messages.
My attitude is let us get the job done. The work you give us is more than a 9.5 dispacth even by UPS standards. So please, give me my helper and 320+ stops and I will get the job done around 10 hours. Don't nickel and dime me with the helper and make me send messages. If you want to cut my helper loose early to save $9.50, it will hurt you to the tune of $43/hour and another $10 for the time bonus (in MA we get 20 min. of OT after 10 hours).
My opinion is take your numbers and ignore them. I say this for UPS's sake. I can only use my helper for x amount of hours? This is ridiculous. Its almost free labor for UPS to keep the helper. They are not paying benifits or pension money to the helper. They are paying him $9.50/hour and if the helper team is average, UPS is getting 40-50 stops per hour or 20-25 stops/hour for $9.50. The other 11 months of the year UPS pays me $29 for 15-20 stops.
This guy or gal is making $9.50 an hour, why are you worried about his cost? After 530pm OT kicks in for me but its time to cut the slave labor loose?
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